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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 03-04-2012 
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29 March 2012: Templeton Worldwide, Inc. increased its deemed interest in China Minzhong with the purchase of 6.611 million shares.



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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 13-03-2012 
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China Minzhong in good mood +2 cents today, 99.5 cents still below $1, hahaha... cheap

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 09-03-2012 
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well, chongwee is just stating his opinion; there is no need to get emotional. Having said that, i disagree with him that pennies have no fundamental. many good stocks do start as a penny stock. My Qingmei hs good fundamentals. I am still in the green with this stock and i have held this for quitre a few months already. I think Fujian Zhenyun also has good fundamentals. I believe it's a matter of time before investors realize it's true value. There are many books written about penny stocks by penny stock investors who have become millionaires (though not like buffett) thru their investment in pennies which eventually became small to mid-sized caps. So, penny stock investors, continue to buy and keep good penny stocks. There should be another penny stock rally soon from now to June
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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 09-03-2012 
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If you say so then it must be so, it cannot be otherwise.

Congra you on choosing millionaire making penny.

wish you all the best.

and i am still learning especailly from you ,i am no expert, but so far lucky to make my fortune.

may you be well and happy.

i am here becos my e-mail notify me a message was posted here in nextinsight.



[hisey 08-03-2012]:


You are just an self-centred empty vessal that that talk nonsense!

If one asks those experienced middle-aged to elderly that make tons of money from stocks b4, it is pennies stocks that made them millionaires from working-class origins. Of course must be able to choose those multi-baggers GOOD FA penny stocks which is why FA in penny stocks is very important,

Only morons and ego-manics with 10 cent-size brain will say never vest in pennies stocks and FA in pennies are not important at all,

u don't try to pretend to be an expert about stock investing when u in fact u know very very little




[cheongwee 08-03-2012]:

Look even this site here, nextinsight talk about sapphire was how good, and some s-chip, especially sapphire,  from 34c, today it is only 15c!!! miserable. 

those who bought i think still hold them tight like their love ones.

Are you one of them, hisey???

never vest in penny is one lesson i learn.

penny are strictly for trading like in this rally.

they got no fumental to talk about, if they are so good, then those BB would have take over and privatise them, why just buy a stake in it if they are so confident.

 

 

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You are just an self-centred empty vessal that that talk nonsense!

If one asks those experienced middle-aged to elderly that make tons of money from stocks b4, it is pennies stocks that made them millionaires from working-class origins. Of course must be able to choose those multi-baggers GOOD FA penny stocks which is why FA in penny stocks is very important,

Only morons and ego-manics with 10 cent-size brain will say never vest in pennies stocks and FA in pennies are not important at all,

u don't try to pretend to be an expert about stock investing when u in fact u know very very little




[cheongwee 08-03-2012]:

Look even this site here, nextinsight talk about sapphire was how good, and some s-chip, especially sapphire,  from 34c, today it is only 15c!!! miserable. 

those who bought i think still hold them tight like their love ones.

Are you one of them, hisey???

never vest in penny is one lesson i learn.

penny are strictly for trading like in this rally.

they got no fumental to talk about, if they are so good, then those BB would have take over and privatise them, why just buy a stake in it if they are so confident.

 

 

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Look even this site here, nextinsight talk about sapphire was how good, and some s-chip, especially sapphire,  from 34c, today it is only 15c!!! miserable. 

those who bought i think still hold them tight like their love ones.

Are you one of them, hisey???

never vest in penny is one lesson i learn.

penny are strictly for trading like in this rally.

they got no fumental to talk about, if they are so good, then those BB would have take over and privatise them, why just buy a stake in it if they are so confident.

 

 

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Penny are for trading, they have got no fundamental to talk about.

If you think they are, and if you say so then it got to be.

But you must be prepare to be penniless in due course.

I never like penny, and i dont bother to read about their fundamental.

I only like blue chip.

ask those of them here who bought penny, till today, they are still deep in red.

 



[hisey 08-03-2012]:


You talk NONSENSE!

What FA of a penny stock is not important??!




[cheongwee 08-03-2012]:

In a rally, fundamental no longer valid, look at all those lossing penny, just because some well known BB buying a stake in it does not make it any more profitable than mkt assume they are, because the BB buying the counter.

Just ask, if they are so good, why not buy up and take it private, why buy only a stake in it. Ask Peter Lim why he bought Thomson medaical and take it private, but not the rest of the counters he got interest in??? They can if they really want to.

They are there for a purpose best known to themselves, and i know why? but that is subjective, we end up arguing no end. Just profit from their action and get off before the music is over will be fine, dont talk fiundamental for penny, I never like penny, but except to trade them fast in and out.

WHY FEAR WHEN THE TREND IS CLEAR.

By the time you finish doing your due diligent, this rally, will be over.

If you still are stubborn, like those way back in Oct, most of my friend, they are crying foul, but they still say, the crises is far from over, who dont know? Greece got no money to pay. BB rule the mkt, we play according to their rule, they dont play according to " your due deligent" or so call fundamentally good stock, What so good if nobody is interested in them.

A stock is only good if it is liquid, and BB are in it. If you buy a fundamentally good stock and wait but BB are not in it, your money will rot here by the time this rally is over. That is opportunity cost. People are making money in this rally except you.

Go with the trend and not against if you want to make money in this mkt.

You all know this Kevin Scully, he always say buy this and wait for mkt to realise their value and in the meantime collect div., but most of his stock are not liquid, you wait and wait, but nothing happen, 

So while waiting, what shd we do, go play golf with him!!!

never buy a stock for it div. it sound good, but you see other counter going up 20 to 30% in a short time, so what so good abt your 5% to 10% div.

Ride the trend to summer, you be glad you did, have a stop loss for the just in case, there are not sure thing in life.

may you all be well and happy.

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 Subject :Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 08-03-2012 
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You talk NONSENSE!

What FA of a penny stock is not important??!




[cheongwee 08-03-2012]:

In a rally, fundamental no longer valid, look at all those lossing penny, just because some well known BB buying a stake in it does not make it any more profitable than mkt assume they are, because the BB buying the counter.

Just ask, if they are so good, why not buy up and take it private, why buy only a stake in it. Ask Peter Lim why he bought Thomson medaical and take it private, but not the rest of the counters he got interest in??? They can if they really want to.

They are there for a purpose best known to themselves, and i know why? but that is subjective, we end up arguing no end. Just profit from their action and get off before the music is over will be fine, dont talk fiundamental for penny, I never like penny, but except to trade them fast in and out.

WHY FEAR WHEN THE TREND IS CLEAR.

By the time you finish doing your due diligent, this rally, will be over.

If you still are stubborn, like those way back in Oct, most of my friend, they are crying foul, but they still say, the crises is far from over, who dont know? Greece got no money to pay. BB rule the mkt, we play according to their rule, they dont play according to " your due deligent" or so call fundamentally good stock, What so good if nobody is interested in them.

A stock is only good if it is liquid, and BB are in it. If you buy a fundamentally good stock and wait but BB are not in it, your money will rot here by the time this rally is over. That is opportunity cost. People are making money in this rally except you.

Go with the trend and not against if you want to make money in this mkt.

You all know this Kevin Scully, he always say buy this and wait for mkt to realise their value and in the meantime collect div., but most of his stock are not liquid, you wait and wait, but nothing happen, 

So while waiting, what shd we do, go play golf with him!!!

never buy a stock for it div. it sound good, but you see other counter going up 20 to 30% in a short time, so what so good abt your 5% to 10% div.

Ride the trend to summer, you be glad you did, have a stop loss for the just in case, there are not sure thing in life.

may you all be well and happy.

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 08-03-2012 
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In a rally, fundamental no longer valid, look at all those lossing penny, just because some well known BB buying a stake in it does not make it any more profitable than mkt assume they are, because the BB buying the counter.

Just ask, if they are so good, why not buy up and take it private, why buy only a stake in it. Ask Peter Lim why he bought Thomson medaical and take it private, but not the rest of the counters he got interest in??? They can if they really want to.

They are there for a purpose best known to themselves, and i know why? but that is subjective, we end up arguing no end. Just profit from their action and get off before the music is over will be fine, dont talk fiundamental for penny, I never like penny, but except to trade them fast in and out.

WHY FEAR WHEN THE TREND IS CLEAR.

By the time you finish doing your due diligent, this rally, will be over.

If you still are stubborn, like those way back in Oct, most of my friend, they are crying foul, but they still say, the crises is far from over, who dont know? Greece got no money to pay. BB rule the mkt, we play according to their rule, they dont play according to " your due deligent" or so call fundamentally good stock, What so good if nobody is interested in them.

A stock is only good if it is liquid, and BB are in it. If you buy a fundamentally good stock and wait but BB are not in it, your money will rot here by the time this rally is over. That is opportunity cost. People are making money in this rally except you.

Go with the trend and not against if you want to make money in this mkt.

You all know this Kevin Scully, he always say buy this and wait for mkt to realise their value and in the meantime collect div., but most of his stock are not liquid, you wait and wait, but nothing happen, 

So while waiting, what shd we do, go play golf with him!!!

never buy a stock for it div. it sound good, but you see other counter going up 20 to 30% in a short time, so what so good abt your 5% to 10% div.

Ride the trend to summer, you be glad you did, have a stop loss for the just in case, there are not sure thing in life.

may you all be well and happy.

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 Subject :Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 07-03-2012 
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[Dele 07-03-2012]:

hisey, you sound very anxious. Two things i can share with you:

a. GIC is still a shareholder with 17% stake.
It cannot sell its stake without the world knowing about it, since it has to make declarations. Its 17% stake is mentioned in this article:

Kim Eng: CHINA MINZHONG growth intact


b. GIC's stake, however, is no guarantee that China Minzhong is a profitable stock investment for you or anyone else. It depends on the price you bought.

A few days before last Xmas, this stock was below 70 cents. It would have been a superb buy then. I was too distracted by the Greek noise and didn't buy it. At $1.00 currently, it's not an expensive price but only with hindsight ( a few months from now) will we know if this was a good price to enter at.

I saw that recent 2 brokerage's report by Kim Eng and CIMB which both mentioned a few penny stocks that will rally very strongly in 2012 and are undervalued now......Among their 2 entire different grp of penny stocks chosen, CMZ is the ONLY SAME counter picked by both houses, hence I bot tis CMZ.

I'm still holding many other stocks including banks and REITS....Quite heavily exposed.

BTW, Do you think the Fundamentals of this CMZ is good or not?

 

 



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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 07-03-2012 
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hisey, you sound very anxious. Two things i can share with you:

a. GIC is still a shareholder with 17% stake.
It cannot sell its stake without the world knowing about it, since it has to make declarations. Its 17% stake is mentioned in this article:

Kim Eng: CHINA MINZHONG growth intact


b. GIC's stake, however, is no guarantee that China Minzhong is a profitable stock investment for you or anyone else. It depends on the price you bought.

A few days before last Xmas, this stock was below 70 cents. It would have been a superb buy then. I was too distracted by the Greek noise and didn't buy it. At $1.00 currently, it's not an expensive price but only with hindsight ( a few months from now) will we know if this was a good price to enter at.


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[cheongwee 07-03-2012]:

You ask, but how many dare to stick out their neck to give opinion, but this stock is unlike s-chip.

I think you should buy on dip and hold till June for capital gain.

I believe it is easily 1.3 to 1.5 stock by then.

but you have to be responsible for your action, there are truthly no sure thing on earth, otherwise , pig would fly. I would have been level with WB.

i am in a mood to post today, somehow, hope my post bring you profit for this counter.

may you be well and happy.

 

I'm also holding 7 lots at 1.01.

Why do u say this is unlike other s-chip?

Do u know our GIC is still vested in this CMZ or they sold all oredi?

Also is there any important event during june 2012 since u said likely 1.3-1.5 by june

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 07-03-2012 
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You ask, but how many dare to stick out their neck to give opinion, but this stock is unlike s-chip.

I think you should buy on dip and hold till June for capital gain.

I believe it is easily 1.3 to 1.5 stock by then.

but you have to be responsible for your action, there are truthly no sure thing on earth, otherwise , pig would fly. I would have been level with WB.

i am in a mood to post today, somehow, hope my post bring you profit for this counter.

may you be well and happy.

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 07-03-2012 
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any views on why this counter fall to below $1 today? any news??

Thought read in SI forum recently past few wks got ANG MO BBs bot at 1.14 and above 1.05

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 Subject :Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 07-03-2012 
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Target $1.68? So much higher than stock price now of only $1.015





[sunnyday520 22-02-2012]:

CMIB raised china minzhong's target price to s$1.68 from s$1.43 and kept its outperform rating!!!

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 22-02-2012 
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CMIB raised china minzhong's target price to s$1.68 from s$1.43 and kept its outperform rating!!!

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 13-02-2012 
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Last week, Macquarie report: We expect Minzhong to deliver revenue of Rmb837m and adjusted EPS of Rmb0.41 during the seasonally strong second quarter, representing 54% and 48% YoY growth, respectively.

Today, actual results: Only 19.4% and 11.8%, respectively, no wonder the stock is down 4.5 cents to $1.105.

Macquarie was tooooo optimistic.
Angmo doesn't mean zhun, ok.


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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 19-01-2012 
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Hi Yeh,

A quick look at the trading volume and patterns during the past week suggested a different story.

There are some big buyers coming in and the stock looks poised for another upside in Jan-Feb 2012.

I have bought some stocks purely on trading ideas.

Expect the unexpected.

 

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong -- Prudential is below 5%.. 17-01-2012 
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Just announced today by Prudential Asset Mgt that it is no longe a Subst Shareholder of China Minzhong. This is a late announcement as Pru had sold 575,000 shares on 4 Jan and went below 5% stake.  Don't understand why Pru sold so cheap a price. Probably around 90- cents. This will cause anxiety in the market and the share overhang will not go away so soon.

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 Subject :Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 17-01-2012 
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Vegetables growing v fast > added 3 cents now 93.5 cents. Will it see $1.00 soon?
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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 10-01-2012 
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Kim Eng Research today maintained its Buy rating and target price of $1.47, pegged at an
 undemanding 6x FY Jun12F PER (in line with its historical mean).

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 27-12-2011 
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DMG's target multiple is so modest at 5x FY12F PER (old: 6x) -- how can a quality S-chip be valued at 5X?

DMG's target price is S$1.38 (old: S$1.68). Anyway, there is some way to go from the current 79 cents. Am I surprised at the sharp rebound today? lol

KIAN ANN, CHINA MINZHONG, REITS: What analysts now say....

 

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong -- positive!.. 27-12-2011 
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Positive news! Stock is up 4.5 cents >>> 76 cents.

China Minzhong has opened a new industrial park in China, which has   around three times the company's current processing capacity. The firm also said it sees no slowdown in demand for
vegetables so far and expects its export order book to be higher in 2012 fiscal year compared with 2011 fiscal year

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 21-12-2011 
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+2.5 cents, now 69 cents. Short covering, probably. Being a sizeable stock, this fella is vulnerable to shorting via CFD or whatever. Today's recovery is on the back of the Dow rising 330 points and a general positive sentiment. If the S-chip has solid corporate governance, the accounts are real, then this is a bargain like never before at 69 cents. Just my 2 yuan's worth. Am vested

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??? 66.5 cents only? Even this S-chip, supposedly good quality, is down. Time for rebound today?

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 19-12-2011 
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This stock reminds me of Heng Tai in Hong Kong. Both companies are in the same industry. Wants money every year but cannot give dividends. AVOID.
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 Subject :Re:Re:China Minzhong.. 19-12-2011 
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Given the top quality of this stock, I can only guess that the selling has been done by funds which are facing redemption or which needed to sell for whatever reason.
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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 16-12-2011 
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Stock prices these days don't reflect the fundamentals of the businesses, just reflect sentiment of the market which in turn is yo-yoing with the developments of the euro crisis.  I know a number of value investors who have bought in Minzhong, or are looking at it. Minzhong is at 73 cents, an all-time low.

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 12-12-2011 
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OMG, this stock closed at 78 cents, its 52-week low and its all-time low.
Why? I thought Prudential can support stock. They also hesitating now>?

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong - new subst shareholder Prudential.. 01-12-2011 
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Big name S-chip, hugely sold down to 88 cents. Opportunity for a new substantial shareholder to buy in. It was announced that Prudential Asset Management has crossed 5%. Today, the stock will surely jump, aided by US and Europe markets being all up sharply.

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 30-10-2011 
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Was $1.41 when NRA had this report ('compelling buy") in June 2011. Now $1.09 after recovering from a low of 88 cents. Wahliao, should have picked it up at below 90 cents a week or 2 ago

CHINA MINZHONG, CHEUNG WOH, CHINA TAISAN: What analysts now say.....

 

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 Subject :Re:China Minzhong.. 29-10-2011 
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weijian from Valuebuddies.com forum shared the following notes:

>>
Went to the AGM 2011 on 28th Oct. Only about retail 20shareholders turned up but there was a long discussion that dragged at least 1.5hours before the CEO implored everyone to move on..
Below are some of my positives/negatives takeaway that i would like to share

Negatives:
- Mgt hinted no dividends upon request for dividends.
- Organic veg (high margins) only accounts for ~5% revenue. There is not much emphasis on growing it, as capital is been deployed to other areas. It seems to deviate from the impression that they are giving to the rest of the world (as per 1 shareholder's comment)
- Claimed to be in favored industry (of gov). Gets grants, lower interest rates and subsidised receivable insurance premium, but still unable to get longer term loans?!

Positives:
- 3 non executive board directors (2 PE, 1 GIC) are substantial shareholders. I believe this might create better dynamics.
- As it is in a favorable industry (of gov), it can get subsidies for banks loans and trade receivables insurance premiums.
- CEO emphasized that CMZ's model is different from Chaoda (well, at least not the 33% of cultivation biz) - Chaoda is mainly involved in upstream, while CMZ is more of fully integrated - cultivation and manufacturing

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Minzhong has added another 5 cents today. Very solid performance . thinking of taking profit but the stock is still so cheap in valuation. U know what level it was at previously? FRom Jan to May 2011, it was around S$1.50. Now at $1.09 doesn't look so expensive. It has been a victim of eurozone rubbish and the Chaoda rubbish.

Macquarie has a 12-month price target of S$2.35 in this report CHINA MINZHONG is deep value

 

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