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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle -..
18-04-2012
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Comparing the financials of two diff biz is illogical. Qingmei is a pure factory play which is not scalable whereas Eratat is franchising its clothing brand via distribution network. It’d be better to compare Eratat with its SGX peer China Sports which has a higher PE ( or even HK listed China Lilang, Li Ning etc )
Qingmei has excellent financials to date, but be wary when the CEO or main shareholder sell down their stakes aggressively, esp S-Chips . I am not vested in Qingmei though I have made some short term trades more than a yr ago. I believe Hunter Hall will continue to sell off its remaining 5%.
I am still holding some Eratat shares I bought early 2009 and I reckon they have executed their plans very well until a year ago when they pushed their Premier range in tier one cities. One of my main gross is it’s deteriorating TR which I believe will be regularize to max 120 days this yr, which is still higher than its industry norm of 90 days. A good CEO should be able to identify mistakes and rectify them. |
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
17-04-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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Hi ethan, yes i didn't really elaborate but you get my drift. Qingmei is 100% (based on financial statements) a better stock than Eratat. Even if u use PSR, P/B, P/E, P/CF, qualitatively speaking, Qingmei is much more attractive. But Mr Market is such a depressive-manic toward it. Hope the sell down will stop this week. |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
17-04-2012
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Hi James,
Don't really understand your point because surely comparing price per share means nothing from a valuation analytical standpoint. Even comparing market capitalization which is in effect the combined price of total shares, would not really give a clear picture.
One should be using financial valuation comparisons such as P/E, P/B, Price to cash flow, Price to free cash flow etc. Price per share means nothing, using the prices per share of 2 companies for valuations comparisons is comparing apples to oranges.
Golden Agri is trading at only 70 plus cents per share. This doesn't mean it's a penny stock. It's a is a multi-billion company (in terms of market cap valuation) and one of the components of the STI Main index. It's trading at 70 plus cents per share merely because there are many shares in the market.
Having said that I'm not vested in Qingmei or Eratat, but if I were to pick one I would also pick Qingmei. Just don't like the recent selldowns by major investors.
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
17-04-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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i really cant believe that eretat, having real problems with receivables, is priced above Qingmei, who has no real problems with financial statements and has more cashflow |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
17-04-2012
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Starting all over again --- now at 12.1 cents
[yinke8 14-02-2012]:
Eratat price fly over 0.160, it is great share! Eratat will reach next point 0.18 soon!
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Subject :Market truth..
21-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Re Is the bear dead?..
20-02-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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anyone going for the Eratat lunch briefing on Wednesday at M hotel? hope got good Q results |
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Subject :Re Is the bear dead?..
19-02-2012
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Guru AKSIN told me:
4 good reasons why the bear is dead on Monday. 1. Budget had some goodies for oil industries etc. 2. China reduce banks reserve requirement. 3. STI held on to 3000 on Friday. 4. Greece issue will be settled.
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Subject :Re:Re: Young bull woken up..
18-02-2012
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| Aiden Lim |
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On a sidenote.. My dad liked the Eratat polo tee i gave to him.. I got it from the investment fair 2011, it was too big for me so i gave it to him.. Too bad we cant choose the size.. :(
I dont know where rally would end or where this volatile rollercoaster would bring me.. But i believe i bought a decent piece of asset at a reasonably cheap valuation... |
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Subject :Re: Young bull woken up..
17-02-2012
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The bull is back ----- U.S. stocks surged Thursday, with the Dow industrials less than 100 points from the 13,000 level, as the outlook for Greece’s bailout improved and American jobless claims slid to a nearly four-year low.
On the emerging-markets bull
Emerging markets are up 14% this year, outperforming U.S. indexes.
The market advance comes along with “continuing favorable economic data,” said Jeffrey Saut, chief investment strategist at Raymond James. “The laggard has been employment, but it’s a damn sight better now than in the first, second or third quarter of ’09.”
A day after its worst session of this year, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 123.13 points, or 1%, to 12,904.08, with all but one of its 30 components in the black. The gain, which put the blue-chip average back at its highest since May 2008, more than recovered Wednesday’s drop of 97.33 |
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Subject :Re:Young bull?..
16-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Young Bull..
15-02-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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I still have QIngmei and YZJ to comfort me so.... |
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Subject :Young Bull..
15-02-2012
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Subject :Young Bull..
15-02-2012
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| viviene |
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James, this is a young bull market. It's buy & hold -- and forget about REITs and other defensives. They are left far behind in this rally.
[jameskuwe 14-02-2012]:
regret selling at 0.118. arggggg
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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| Window Chan |
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when the stocks was going down, you can come out with all the reasons why it's going down, like it's high account receivable.
now the stock price recovers 50% in 2 weeks, do we need a reason to know why ? hehe....
those who sold @ 13 after the last results really dunno what to say. maybe they pick it up again at 0.1x . or will they come in when eratat pulls back ? |
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Last Edited On: 14-02-2012 By Window Chan for the Reason |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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regret selling at 0.118. arggggg |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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| jameskuwe |
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regret selling at 0.118. arggggg |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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Eratat price fly over 0.160, it is great share! Eratat will reach next point 0.18 soon! |
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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| newbiestock |
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Eratat is flying high...... |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
14-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
13-02-2012
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| coverup |
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I agree there has been a 40% return. The big question is can it make the move to back to its IPO price given its tremendous growth potential, pentration of the China market, accumulation by BBs and support from the website and forum here?
Good luck have fun!
[Window Chan 12-02-2012]:
where are all the people who talked about high accounts receivable ?
from 10c to 14c that's 40% return !!!
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
13-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
13-02-2012
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Though I am not worried abt their other receivables ( ref their latest reply to SGX which can be extracted from Eratat website ) , I think investors’ concern re their deteriorating trade receivables is justified. This is my only grouse , otherwise they have executed their plans very well to date. However, I like their transparent management style and still have faith in their mgt to improve TR while they consolidate their biz this yr.
Unusual that the share price has gone up slowly everyday since 25Jan2011. Hopefully their TR will be much improved in their YE2011 report later this mth? |
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Subject :A Matter of Mindset..
13-02-2012
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Stock selection depends very much on each individual’s mindset in addition to his/her risk appetite, financial resources and knowledge of the game. Taking ERATAT as an illustration, a person with a negative mindset would think of all the reasons why one should not invest in it. Such a person would not be expected to go far in life or in an organization because his conclusion to any decision-making situation encountered would invariably be that – it cannot or should not be done. A person with a positive mindset, however, would take into consideration the entire plus & minus points about Eratat and think of all the probable (not always possible) ways of making money from this stock especially if the stock is undervalued or mispriced.
Regarding the high account receivables of Eratat, the questions that need to be asked should be – how serious is this risk factor? What are the possibility, and the number, of Eratat’s distributors that could likely go bust & what measures have Eratat instituted to protect itself? Since its IPO, Eratat does not have any bad debt because of its in-house control. What is the probability of this happening in future? These are just some of the issues that one need to addressed before arriving at a sound decision to invest or not to. |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
13-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
12-02-2012
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| Window Chan |
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where are all the people who talked about high accounts receivable ?
from 10c to 14c that's 40% return !!! |
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Last Edited On: 12-02-2012 By Window Chan for the Reason |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
12-02-2012
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It had been great ! stay at 0.145, go for 0.16!!! it is time to buy ! |
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
12-02-2012
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it will be great if the company does not get mired in controversy like other S-Chips.
Fingers crossed |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
11-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
10-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
10-02-2012
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Subject :Re:Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
09-02-2012
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All waiting for it to break 14c..... |
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Subject :Re:Eratat Lifestyle - Forward PE 1.5X..
08-02-2012
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